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If there's one aspect of medical education that I consider to be paramount, at least when it comes to understanding how to analyze and apply all the evidence, both basic science and clinical, it's a firm grounding in the scientific method.
There are students majoring in other sciences,… AskaSciBlogger Question for June 22nd What makes a good science teacher? This is the part I have the most trouble with. Shouldn't the students at least have to take some advanced biology and chemistry, beyond the intro level stuff covered in AP classes?
I agree that the MCAT is mostly not useful, but it would at least require people to learn some of that intermediate-level material. By Eric Suh not verified on 30 Jul permalink a lot of the students I see struggling in pre-med physics are struggling because of things that would not be positive features in a doctor.
This is just right. Pre-med students should have to take physics and chemistry not because they need to be able to understand the harmonic oscillator or balance a redox reaction, but because they need to be able to think in the way that helps one succeed in those classes. I once had a student complain to me that she was wasting her time in my Analytical Chemistry lab class because it would be irrelevant to her future career.
When I asked what her plans were after college, she reported with a straight face that she would be attending pharmacy school.
Doctors need to be educated people for lots of reasons, not just because they hold life-and-death power over others. I suspect that if it became the normal path, the overall intelligence and fitness of doctors to practice would decline.
But that's just my view of the ideal world. In my ideal world, physicians are close to practical scientists. They should use a lot of the same skills a good data analyst uses to diagnose conditions. Surgeons are different; they're pretty much just mechanics. I realize that in the real world it probably wouldn't make much difference in the quality of physicians and their ability to do good medicine.
There would be good ones and there would be bad ones. And for the most part the most part, not the full part doctors would be what they are now, more along the lines of an engineer following all the rules of thumb than a scientist who understands where the rules came from and when they don't apply.
Log in to post comments By Mark P not verified on 30 Jul permalink Why are they required to not take the more advanced classes? What a strange idea.
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Is it just so statistics can be done on their outcomes and compared to the usual track? Log in to post comments By onymous not verified on 30 Jul permalink Or maybe I'm misunderstanding and "required to take only" is intended to mean "only required to take" Log in to post comments By onymous not verified on 30 Jul permalink No.
Physicians need to have a scientific background. The power of modern medicine is that it is science based. As a result, we are living longer, healthier lives. While an organic chemistry class by itself isn't going to really make it possible for physicians to understand exactly how the medications they administer work, it will help.
It may not be as clear why physics is important too, but if you read Orac's post this morning, you might get some sense biophotonic water anyone? Finally, physicians continue to be held in high esteem in all communities. Their opinions tend to be listened too. I believe part of this is their rigorous education beginning as undergraduates and continuing through medical school.
So, if others are going to really listen to what physicians have to say, I'd certainly hope that when they talk about science, they have a strong background in it.
Log in to post comments By Brian not verified on 30 Jul permalink most of the students resent having to take physics, and I'm not wild about being used as a weed-out course for somebody else's major program, which is a combination that easily turns into a thoroughly miserable experience for everyone.
This issue is not unique to pre-meds. You also see it, though not to as great an extent, in engineering majors. I agree with Chemist 2 that the primary value in having pre-meds take physics is so that they can include physics thinking in their toolbox.
Whether the present day Physics for Pre-Meds courses achieve that goal is another question.Brainteasers for Physicists, Biologists, Chemists, Mathematicians and Other Crazy Brainiacs 0.
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